Media Myths: An invitation for Latter-day Saints to understand changes within the Boy Scouts of America

This month I had two distinct experiences.

While introducing myself to an international stranger, I mentioned that I lived in Utah, USA.

“Oh, that’s the place where people have lots of wives!” he remarked.

I cringed.

A few days later, a good friend showed up at my door. With tear-filled eyes he said, “I’m so sorry that Scouting is ending.”

I cringed again.

While both of these assumptions—that polygamy is legal in Utah, and that Scouting is ending—are false, they are mingled with truth. Yes, polygamy was prevalent in Utah over 150 years ago. And, the relationship between Scouting and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is ending this year. However, the full and entire truth about both of these situations is often misunderstood.

As a lifetime member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and as a longtime volunteer for the Boy Scouts of America, I have firsthand experience with painful partial truths. I often refer to these misunderstandings as “media myths.”

People are prone to read a headline and immediately think they comprehend a story. During the past century, both the Church and the BSA have been victims to unfortunate media myths and misconceptions.

Paradoxically, we are currently in a situation—the Church ending its Scouting partnership—with multiple misconceptions about the BSA among Church members.

I wish to directly address the confusion that some of my Latter-day Saint friends have regarding the Boy Scouts of America.

Unfortunately, many Latter-day Saints feel the BSA has undergone “major” foundational changes during the past decade. This assumption is false. Instead, closer observation reveals that the BSA is simply making structural modifications. And, the Church is making—and has already made—similar adjustments!

My goal is to clarify changes the BSA has recently made, and share with Church members why I personally agree with these changes, and why I don’t feel they are causing the end of the LDS-BSA relationship.

Since May 8, 2018 when the Church announced the end of their Scouting partnership, I’ve observed seven common misconceptions about the relationship between the two organizations. I will refer to these misconceptions as “myths,” and have numbered them one through seven, in no particular order.

As all-too-common victims of media madness ourselves, I invite members of the Church to seek the full truth about the Boy Scouts of America.

Please note that what I share is based on my personal opinions. These views are mine and don’t officially represent the Church or the BSA.

Now sit back, smile, and read on.

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Myth #1: The Church is leaving Scouting because the Church no longer supports the BSA.

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland clarified this myth when he spoke at the BSA National Annual Meeting in May 2018.

“Right now in the Church there are 4.5 million young people. We have a very large responsibility to a very large Church and it’s getting larger. That’s the arena and the growth that we’re facing. We are obligated for all the right reasons to intentionally reach them around the world.”

“Please know how grateful we are to the BSA. We are friends now and we will be friends forever. In 18 months when our charters are finished, we hope that many LDS youth who wish to do so will still choose to be in Scouting. It is just the charter part that we are separating from. We’re going to stay in close contact. And we are locked arm in arm and hand in hand for the next 18 months. Please keep your shoulder to the wheel. Let me stress again, this isn’t a divorce. It’s growth. We’re not in any way disavowing any of those virtues of Scouting.”

I personally reported on this event and wrote this article, and Elder Holland himself approved the article before it was published on the Latter-day Saint Scouting website. (Read the full article here.)

I’ve often heard Church members whisper that there is “more” to the ending partnership, but I choose to believe an apostle’s explanation. Yes, the Church does need a worldwide youth program. And yes, “We will be friends forever.”


Myth #2: The Church is leaving Scouting because of girls.

The truth is that the Boy Scouts of America first welcomed girls into many of their programs starting in the 1970s. These coed programs included Exploring, Venturing, Learning for Life, Sea Scouts, and others.

While the Cub Scout and Boy Scout divisions remained male-only programs, they opened their doors to females in 2018 and 2019, respectively. However, girls can still only participate in separate dens and separate troops.


As a former youth Explorer who loved the outdoor adventure provided by the BSA, I look forward to enrolling my own girls in the high quality Cub Scout and Scouts BSA programs.

Interestingly enough, the Church is also making changes to equalize young men and young women activity programs. For example, the new youth program, Children and Youth, provides a non-gender based outline for personal growth. Boys and girls, young men and young women, are now on an equal plane. In fact, in the announcement during the recent general conference, it was noted that “…ward budgets for youth activities will be divided equitably between the young men and young women according to the number of youth in each organization.”

And, in an interesting twist, while the BSA maintains separate girl and boy dens and troops, the Church often combines males and females in more activities than the BSA, making the Church slightly more lenient in this matter. I have seen Activity Day boys and girls meet together under coed circumstances that would actually violate BSA policy.

Additionally, the Church has made recent changes in temple and baptismal ordinances to more readily involve females and further clarify the value and position of women in the priesthood. These changes in the Church are enlightening!

We should feel the same about parallel changes to equalize opportunities for females in Scouting. It’s exciting that the BSA and the Church are both making similar structural adjustments.

No, girls in Scouting really isn’t new news. Instead, it’s thrilling!


Myth #3: The Church is leaving Scouting because of transgender youth and adults.

Frankly, this is old news as well. And again, changes the BSA has made to welcome all youth and adults mirror changes in the Church.

A few Church examples of recent inclusiveness include greater emphasis on inviting all to come unto Christ, specific websites to help transgender individuals feel welcome in Latter-day Saint congregations, the Tabernacle Choir performing with the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus (full story here), and even recent Church policy changes that allow baptisms for children of same-sex couples.

Additionally, consider that Scouts Canada changed their youth and adult leader policies way back in the 1990s, yet the Church kept a partnership with them for over 20 more years. It stands to reason, then, that membership policy changes are not the reason for the end of the LDS-BSA partnership.

These membership adjustments are truly non-issues in both the Church and the BSA, especially in our current social climate.

It is extremely notable, however, that the BSA has not changed their century-old Scout Oath and Scout Law; nor has the Church changed the Ten Commandments, the Articles of Faith, The Living Christ or the Proclamation on the Family. While maintaining their historical and principled foundations, both organizations have opened their arms to all who wish to join and abide by their precepts.

This steadfastness is remarkable and commendable.

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Myth #4: The BSA is going bankrupt.

Members of the Church should fully understand how the media often misconstrues financial facts. I remember a major article splashed across the cover of Time Magazine titled, Mormon, Inc. The article grossly overstated the financial status and goals of the Church. It was misleading and embarrassing.

Likewise, the media has caught wind of financial stress within the BSA, and is having a heyday with them.

In a nutshell, recent changes in state litigation laws now allow unlimited suing ability for abuse victims, literally putting non-profit organizations out of business—a dangerous situation. Instead of focusing on what they do best, the BSA is drowning in litigation costs. This is an unfortunate outcome of our current sue-happy society.

(Read an official statement on the situation by Chief Scout Executive Mike Surbaugh here.)

Since the 1920s, the BSA has kept careful track of child pedophiles and abusers, removing such individuals from their programs. Even a century ago, before records of such people were required, the Boy Scouts of America went above and beyond to track offenders and deny them access to our youth. Strangely enough, these records—once used to protect youth—are now used by greedy litigators to hurt the Boy Scouts of America.

The BSA hasn’t made an official decision yet, but as a non-profit institution they can “restructure” and set aside money specifically for litigation costs and abuse victims, while maintaining funds necessary to run their organization and program. Such an action would require the vote of the BSA National Executive Board. Time will tell what these wise men and women choose to do in this precarious situation.

I am personally afraid for organizations like the Boy Scouts of America—led by honorable people, striving to uphold American values—who are being put out of business by lack of litigation boundaries. Situations such as this should make us fear for our society.

In my opinion, the BSA is not the enemy. Instead, a society without youth who are trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind and all the rest is the true nightmare.

Again, the Boy Scouts of America is not going bankrupt. They are considering a “restructure” to save non-profit funds for what the BSA does best—instill character, citizenship, leadership, and fitness in America’s youth.


Myth #5: The Boy Scouts of America changed its name.

Sigh. The Boy Scouts of America did not change its name. It simply changed the name of one of its many programs. Boy Scouts are now Scouts, BSA. This change is a reflection of the fact that girls can now join girl troops—all (let me be clear) under the umbrella of the Boy Scouts of America.

And, speaking of name changes, Latter-day Saints should be especially empathetic to official names. We were recently asked by our prophet to stop using the terms “Mormon” and “LDS” and focus on our full name: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Have we changed our name?


And neither has the Boy Scouts of America.


Myth #6: Scout leaders endanger our youth.

This is another classic example of media madness. Small truths are being twisted to tell partial truths and hurt good programs.

My kids participate in several different extra curricular activities, and none of them use a Youth Protection program like the BSA. In my opinion (and the statistics support me) kids are safer in Scouting programs than anywhere else.

I prefer sending my children to leaders who have been trained in multiple facets of safety as well as specific youth protection guidelines. I like having two leaders present at each Scouting activity. I choose an organization with leaders who have skill-specific training for outdoor adventure and safety.

The Church is not immune to youth protection issues either. Consider the recent allegations regarding the BYU Honor Code. I actually worked in the Honor Code Office as a student secretary when I was a college Junior. The people in that office were some of the kindest, most honorable individuals I’ve ever worked for. I often think about them during these media madness times, and wonder how they are coping as rumors swirl around their peaceful purposeful office.


I feel the same about the Scout leaders I know. They are honorable upright citizens who support youth. Paradoxically, these good people are engaged in a battle against them. It’s strange that our society eagerly twists truth and makes good people the enemy.

I invite you to look past the media madness and get to know your local Scouting leaders. I believe you’ll be impressed, too.


Myth #7 We can’t be involved in both the new Church youth program and Scouting

This is a question each family will decide for themselves.

I personally feel that Scouting will complement, not compete with, the new Church initiative. I believe and am grateful that our youth can still be involved in Scouting while working on personal growth in their Church quorums and classes. Scouting is an effective way to inspire physical, intellectual, spiritual, and social development in youth. For us, Scouting perfectly complements our quest to increase in “wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.”


Scouting has been a bridge for our family to connect with many good people not of our faith who also believe in God, country and family. For us, Scouting is a ministry—an opportunity to meet and serve with incredible people in our community, nation, and world. And an opportunity to follow personal revelation, grow, and bless lives. We have felt an undeniable spirit when we gather with good people in the framework of Scouting. We are working arm in arm with other children of God to prepare for the Second Coming of the Savior. Isn’t this exactly what the Church is encouraging us to do? I think so.

So, now that we’ve discussed the myths, let’s talk about what the BSA IS doing…


After 109 years, they are still delivering quality programs to youth throughout our nation. They are still providing outdoor adventure opportunities and character building activities under incredibly safe guidelines. They are still training leaders in specific safety and youth leadership. They are still founded on their original Oath of honor to God, country, and family.


Scouting is still a robust personal development program that teaches First Aid, patriotism, environmental respect, swimming and lifesaving skills, navigational and camping skills, understanding animals and wildlife, financial and personal management, leadership, cooking skills and safe handling of foods, community involvement at the local, national and world levels; internet safety, emergency preparedness, safe water practices…

The list goes on and on!

The BSA has benefited generations of youth, and will continue to bless generations in the decades to come.

Personally, I’m extremely grateful for an organization that teaches character, citizenship, and leadership. I love when youth learn to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.

I whole-heartedly applaud and support the Boy Scouts of America. Our family—both boys and girls—plans to be involved for generations to come.


We will Still be Scouting in 2020, and I hope your family will be, too.


23 thoughts on “Media Myths: An invitation for Latter-day Saints to understand changes within the Boy Scouts of America

    • Carol James says:

      That’s an interesting response. I am a 65 year old LDS woman and my youngest child is 35, and yet I still have family in scouts – me! I work on the District level and with a non-LDS unit that my grandchildren will be attending. I’m not judging your response because I don’t know your circumstance, but I hope it wasn’t based solely on age or gender!


  1. Brett Bybee says:

    So very well expressed! Thank you so much for sharing your very insightful thoughts about Scouting at this extremely critical time even the values of Scouting are needed in our communities more than ever before.


  2. Brenden Taylor says:

    I wholeheartedly concur on every point! My family will continue scouting into 2020 and beyond, and we are excited about the possibilities. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences–Scouting is needed more today than ever before, while perhaps paradoxically being less understood and supported than at any time in its history. I’ve met far too many people who want the program but not the values, and thereby miss the heart and soul of what it is all about in the first place. This is a great reminder

    As a side note, for what it is worth, it was Time magazine with the headline, not the New York Times newspaper, though mayhap they ran a similar piece, or shared parts of the other.


  3. Marc says:

    Thanks for this most insightful article! So refreshing to see these points all laid out so logically, articulately and persuasively. I have loved my involvement with scouting since being a cub (am now half way through my sixth decade), and my family will happily continue to be involved with such a great movement, as a complement to the new family-centered, church-supported youth initiative.


  4. David Meek says:

    I am delighted to see your post. Positive messages stick. Your message needs to be echoed from the tops of the mountains throughout Old Deseret.

    As any marketing person knows, however, people only remember the messages they hear most. To that end, what is needed is a 10 second sound byte on KSL Radio repeated frequently for the next six to eight months, “This is Elder Jeffery R Holland. Remember, it is still OK to be a Scout.” The other thing needed is a placement service at the ward or stake level that helps Scouts transition to a home troop for 2020. Only then will Mom and Pop truly know, “It is still OK to be a Scout.”

    The Church’s imminent exit from Scouting, while entirely rational and justifiable, puts me in mind of exiting the parking lot at Soldier Mountain during the 2002 Olympics. Early in the day, an ingenious, orderly process got everyone into their parking spot and up to the mountain with impressive efficiency. A beautiful day! Wonderful customer service! At the end of the day, the venue closed and all official presence vanished. Thousands of cars attempted to leave at once. What a mess! Negative impressions stick, too! The Scouting venue at the church is not closed yet. There is still time to avert the mess brewing in the parking lot.

    On a personal note, Nettie, we met briefly at a scout camp in Idaho in 2018. You son was our program director — a very capable young man. I was the less capable gray-haired aquatics director. One of the high points of my service that summer was our brief conversation early in the morning just after you and your delightful family arrived in camp. You were looking for facilities for the little ones. I pointed out the nearby pit kaibo, which was the go-to for everybody in that part of camp. You asked emphatically, with justified disgust, “Is that the best you can do?!” As I recall, I grinned, then directed you to the super-secret water-closet hidden in the nearby lodge that only those with a ring of power (not me!) were allowed to use. For the rest of that summer, and for this past summer at a scout camp in Maine, your words echoed in my ear at times when a little extra was needed, “Is that the best you can do?!” Thank you!


  5. Ashley says:

    Thank you for this!! I was in tears by the end. I’m down here in the Houston, TX area feeling the exact same way. I too am tired of the media hype that portrays the BSA as faltering, losing their grip, and getting out of touch. Our troop has the best experiences where my daughter and I have countless opportunities to be missionaries, leaders, mentors, and friends. I’m so grateful we have the Church and Scouting in our family. They compliment each other perfectly. When the programs in both function as intended, lives are touched, and hearts are changed. Thank you for your words that validate my feelings and help me dispel my doubts. ☺️


    • Nettie H. Francis says:

      Thank you, Ashley, for the good you are doing! I completely agree: the Church and Scouting are a wonderful compliment to each other. We have also seen lives touched and hearts changed through involvement in both organizations. We are still Scouting, and I’m so glad that you and your family are, too!


  6. Courtney DesForge says:

    I’m not a member of the LDS church but I am an employee of the BSA. I fully appreciate your article. It helps me understand many points I’ve heard from LDS Scouters or those who think they know the points of the LDS church. I know the BSA side of things, but I love getting an understanding of all parts of the puzzle. Thank you for the time and effort that went into this article!


    • Nettie H. Francis says:

      Thank you, Courtney, for your kind words. I’m so glad this was helpful to those who are not members of our Church as well as those who are. And thank you for your professional Scouting service! I’m so glad this article was helpful.


  7. Alice Retzinger says:

    Thanks for the article. As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and a long-time scouter I am always having to explain the situation. Almost every day anther church member asks me what I will do now that there is no more Scouting or I overhear members talking about why ” the church is leaving Scouting.” Many read only the first sentence of the official announcement from the church. Thanks for helping to educate and inform.


  8. Jon says:

    I, a Unitarian Universalist, am delighted to know that my Scouting brothers and sisters in the Latter-Day Saints (sorry — it will be a struggle to get me to stop myself from using “Mormons” or “LDS”) will not be3 flooding out of our ranks. I like to say that no one religion has a monopoly on the ideals which underlie Scouting; and I am delighted to hear that you and those of your faith see no conflict between the tenets of your faith and Scouting.


    • Nettie H. Francis says:

      Thanks, Jon! One of our family’s favorite aspects of Scouting is mingling with good people of other faiths. Scouting provides a wonderful opportunity for our children to learn about the goodness in people and religions everywhere.


  9. momsaid2 says:

    In your second myth, you state that Church activities including boys and girls are far greater than in Scouting. You failed to mention that many Scouting activities involve overnight camping. I don’t believe that slumbering in close proximity to the opposite sex is encouraged in the ‘For the Strength of Youth’ guidelines.


    • Nettie H. Francis says:

      Thanks for your comment! Camping and overnighting in Scouting is only done with families until age 11. Cub Scouts can only “family camp” with a parent. Once youth reach the age of 11, they may only camp with those of the same gender. Girl troops and boy troops still sleep separately, youth with youth and adults with adults. These guidelines are very similar to Church overnighters. Young women and young men also sleep in separate areas. Even adult Scouters who go on overnighters have separate accommodations for male and female, except for those who are married. Our family enjoys Cub Scout family camping and Scout camps because of the clear guidelines.


  10. Robert Smith says:

    Really good Article…I am not of your church (Southern Baptist here), but I thought you covered the BSA viewpoint(s) in a thoughtful and complete manner. Thanks for your thoughts and efforts. Blessings….


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